Proceedings of the Meghalaya Legislative Assembly assembled at 9 A.M. on Monday, the 17th March, 1975 in the Assembly Chamber, Shillong.

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 The Hon'ble Speaker in the Chair.

 UNSTARRED QUESTIONS

(To which replies were laid on the Table)

Mr. Speaker :-  Let us begin the business of the day by taking up Unstarred Question No.35.

Families affected by flood in Mauza No.VI of Garo Hills.

Shri Singjan Sangma asked :- 

35. Will the Minister-in-charge of Revenue be pleased to state -

  (a) The total number of families rendered homeless during the last flood in Garo Hills in Mauza No.VI ?
 

(b) What steps have so far been taken by the Government to rehabilitate them ?

  (c) Whether it is a fact that due to economic distress many children who were sold and subsequently recovered are now being camped at Bholarbhita in Garo Hills by private organisers ?
  (d) What steps have been taken by the Government for maintenance of the said camps ?

Shri Brington Buhai Lyngdoh (Minister in-charge, of Revenue) replied :- 

35. (a) -About 4,842 families were temporarily rendered homeless during the last flood in Garo Hills District in Mauza No. VI.
 

(b) -Government had undertaken all possible relief measures in the shape of gratuitous relief, test relief and supply of seeds at 50 percent loan and 50 percent grant basis. The number of fair price shops was increased and an additional allotment of essential commodities was made and medical facilities were provided.

  (c) -No due to economic hardship 32 children who were reportedly abandoned by their parents were in Bholarbhita destitute camp Garo Hills organised by Garo Hills Muslim Samaj Kalyan Kendra, Bholarbhita. Twenty four numbers of them have been returned to their parents or adopted by others. Now there are only 8 children left in the camp.
  (d) -Garments blankets and medicines were supplied by Red Cross Society and Voluntary organisations to the destitute children. Medical cover is still being provided by  Government for the said camp.

Shri. W. Syiemiong :-  35(c), may we know the age of the the children living in the said camps.

Shri B. B. Lyngdoh (Minister, Revenue) :-  The age ranges from 4 to 10 years

Standard of Pre-Primary School Education

Shri Pritington Sangma asked :

36.. Will the Minister-in-charge of Education be pleased to state -

  (a) Whether the Government proposes to improve the standard of Pre-Primary School Education. ?
 

(b) If so, the nature of improvement ?

  (c) Whether the Government proposes to train the nursery school teachers ?
  (d) If so, where ?

Shri Peter Garnett Marbaniang Minister of State in charge of Education replied :- 

36. (a) -Yes.
 

(b) & (c) -Setting up of a Training Centre for teachers is being examined.

  (d) -Location will be decided after the scheme is finalised.

Shri. S.P. Swer :- 36 (a), may we know the number of Pre-primary schools in the State ?

Shri P. G. Marbaniang Minister of State for Education :- I want notice for that question.

Tiffin to School Children.

Shri Brojendra Sangma asked :

37. Will the Minister-in-charge of Education be pleased to state -

  (a) Whether the Government propose to introduce the system of providing tiffin to School children in the State ?
 

(b) If not, why not ?

Shri Peter Garnett Marbaniang (Minister of State or in-charge of Education) replied :-

37. (a) -Government have sanctioned implementation of scheme "Free Mid-day Meals" during 1974-75 to children of age group 6 - 14 in primary schools of most backward areas only.
 

(b) -Does not arise.

Shri W. Syiemiong :-  37.(a) may  we know that agencies through which this scheme of mid day meals was given ?

Shri. P. G. Marbaniang (Minister of State for Education) : - That is not in the main question. It is a different question.

Shri W. Syiemiong :-  I am sorry Sir, my question is with regard to (b) and it does not fall in (a).

Shri P.G. Marbaniang (Minister of State for Education) :- The money is given to the District Council in collaboration with the district Social Education Officer and also in consultation with the Block Committees.

Shri S.P Swer :-  Is it not a fact that three mid-day meals are served to the schools children by the school authorities ?

Shri. P.G. Marbaniang (Minister of State for Education) :- Mr. Speaker, Sir, not under this scheme.

New P.W.D. Division.

Shri Dlosing Lyngdoh asked :-

38. Will the Minister-in-charge of P.W.D. be pleased to state -

  (a) The number of new P.W.D. Divisions Government propose create during the next financial year ?
 

(b) When will the Shillong North and Shillong West P.W.D. Divisions start functioning ?

  (c) Where will the office of the Shillong  North P.W.D. Divisions be located ?
  (d) When will the Executive Engineers for the Shillong West and Shillong North P.W.D. Divisions be appointed ?
  (e)  What will be the jurisdiction of Shillong North P.W.D. Division.

Shri P. Ripple Kyndiah (Minister in charge of P.W.D.) replied :

38. (a) -Government do not contemplate to create any more new Divisions in the next financial year.
 

(b) -It is proposed to start the Divisions in the early part of the next financial year.

  (c) -At Shillong.
  (d) -The Executive Engineers will be appointed as soon as the formalities are completed.
  (e) -The Shillong North P.W.D. Division will comprise of the following P.W.D. Subdivisions :-
    (i) Shillong Sub-Urban Subdivision, Shillong (previous South Shillong (B) Subdivision, Shillong).
    (ii) Umsning - Jagi Road Subdivision, Nayabungalow.
    (iii) Nongpoh Subdivision II, Nongpoh.

Shri Dlosing Lyngdoh :-  It appears that the replies to sub questions No. 38(a) and 38 (b) are contradicting each other. May we get some clarification ?

Shri P. Ripple Kyndiah (Minister in charge of P.W.D.) :- We have already issued notification in regard to the creation of the new sub-divisions and infact notifications have already been issued in so far as more new sub-divisions are concerned in the next financial year. But there is no consensus of opinion at this stage.

Shri W. Syiemiong :-  38(c) May we know the location of the Shillong West P.W.D. Division.

Shri. P. R. Kyndiah (Minister in charge of P.W.D.) :- That is a new question.

Number of Lecturers and office staff in the Government Colleges.

Shri H. Enowell Pohshna asked :

39. Will the Minister-in-charge of Education be pleased to state -

  (a) The number of Lecturers in (i) Tura Government College, (ii) Jowai Government College ?
 

(b) The number of Head Assistants, U.D. Assistants and L.D. Assistants in (i) Tura Government College, (ii) Jowai Government College ?

Shri Peter Garnett Marbaniang (Minister of State for Education) replied :

39.(a) and (b)- The  number of lecturers and office staff who are in position in the two Government Colleges are :- 

Tura Government College Jowai Government College
Lecturers in English 5 3
Lecturer in Political Science 4 2

Lecturer in Economic

4 3
Lecturer in History 4 2
Lecturer in Philosophy 3 2
Lecturer in Assamese 2 .....
Lecturer in Bengali 2 ....
Lecturer in Garo  1 ....
Lecturer in Physics 2 1
Lecturer in Chemistry 2 1
Lecturer in Mathematics 2 2
Lecturer in Botany 2 1
Lecturer in Zoology 1 1
Lecturer in Commerce 1 ....
Lecturer in Education 1 2
Lecturer in Geography 1 ....
Lecturer in Khasi .... 1
Tutor in Khasi .... 1
Head Assistant  .... ....
U. D. Assistant 1 1
L. D. Assistant  2 1

Demarcation of P.W.D.  road side lands on National and State Highways

Shri Kisto Mohon Roy Marbaniang asked :

40.  Will the Minister-in-charge of P.W.D. be pleased to state -

  (a) Whether there are clear demarcations of P.W.D. road-side land on National Highway No.40 ?
 

(b) If so, why coal is allowed to be dumped by the side of the Highway at Upper Shillong (Mile 5/4 F.P.) which causes lots of obstruction to the motorists ?

  (c) Whether there is a clear demarcation of P.W.D. road-side lands in the State Highway from Demthring upto Madanriting village ?
  (d) If so, why timbers are allowed to be stacked all along the State Highway from Demthring upto Madanriting village which cause lots of obstruction to motorists ?

Shri P. Ripple Kyndiah [Minister of P.W.D. (R & B)] replied :

40. (a) -No.
 

(b) -The owner of the coal was asked to remove the dumped within the road-side land. Action is being taken to clear up the road-side.

  (c) -Yes, once there was a clear demarcation. But at present the demarcation pillars are no longer traceable since the widening of the road.
  (d) -The stackings of the timbers were done without any permission from P.W.D. The Deputy Commissioner has been requested to remove the obstruction.

Shri Maham Singh :-  Mr. Speaker, Sir whether the Government have documents to show what is the P.W.D. road size in the State.?

Shri P. Ripple Kyndiah (Minister in charge of P.W.D.) :- We do not have any clear documents but we have got  some kind of information with regard to the width and length of the road.

Courses prescribed by N.E.H.U. during 1974-75.

Shri D. Dethwelson Lapang  asked :

41. Will the Minister-in-charge of Education be pleased to state -

  (a) Whether Government was fully posted with information of the various courses prescribed by the North Eastern Hill University during 1974 - 75 ?
 

(b) If so, what are the new Departments opened by the NEHU during the current session ?

  (c) The total number of scholars belonging to Meghalaya ?
  (d) Whether it is a fact that the NEHU will be having the third Class Master's degree also in addition to the first and second classes ?

Shri Peter Garnett Marbaniang (Minister of State in charge of Education) replied :

4.(a)-Yes- The Courses that were opened by the University during 1974-75 are :-

SCHOOL OF LANGUAGES

*M.A. in English (Final)

SCHOOL OF SOCIAL SCIENCES

M. A. in History (Previous)

M. A. in Political Science (Previous)

M. A in Economics (Previous)

M. A in Philosophy (Previous)

SCHOOL OF LIFE SCIENCES

M. Sc in Zoology (Previous)

M. Sc in Botany (Previous).

SCHOOL OF PHYSICAL SCIENCES

M. Sc in Mathematics (Previous and Final).

SCHOOL OF EDUCATION

SCHOOL OF CONTINUING EDUCATION

* M. A. In English (Previous) courses in the School of Languages was opened in 1973-74.

    (b)   -The new Department opened by the University during the current session are :-

  (i)  Department of English (Final).
 

(ii) Department of Political Science.

  (iii) Department of History.
  (iv) Department of Economics.
  (v)  Department of Philosophy.
  (vi) Department of Zoology.
  (vii) Department of Botany.
  (viii) Department of Mathematics.

 

  (c) -The total number of scholars belonging to Meghalaya who were admitted in the University is 82, of whom 42 are females and 40 are males.
  (d) -No.

Grant to M.E. and H.E. Schools in Garo Hills 

Shri Singjan Sangma asked :

42. Will the Minister-in-charge of Education be pleased to state the total amount received by the different M.E. and H.E. Schools in Garo Hills during 1973 - 74 as grant of the following categories -

  (i) School building grant ;
  (ii) Hostel building grant ;
  (iii) Teachers' quarters grant ; and
  (iv) Library grant ?

Shri Sandford K. Marak (Minister in charge of Education) replied :

42.    Grants received by various Schools during 1973-74 are as follows :-

Name of Schools

School Buildings

Hostel

 Staff Quarters

 Library

Middle English Schools

Rs..

Rs.

Rs.

Rs.

1.

Chenggapara M. E

5,000

...

...

...

2.

Rongsakgiri M.E.

3,000

...

...

...

3.

Sesengpara M.E.

5,000

...

...

...

4.

Nonghhram M.E.

2,000

...

...

500

5.

Rone Asim M.E.

2,000

...

...

...

6.

Mangsang M.E.

2,000

6,000

...

500

7.

Mitapgiri  M.E.

2,000

...

...

500

8.

Mendima M.E.

2,000

...

...

...

9.

 

Garobadha M.E.

 

2,000

...

...

...

6,000

...

...

...

10.

Kodaldhawa M.E.

2,000

...

8000

500

11.

Balkal Asim   M.E.

5,000

...

...

...

12.

Rongkhon  M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

13.

Rongram  M.E.

6,000

...

8000

...

14.

Gokolgiri  M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

15.

Darugiri M.E.

6,000

...

...

500

16.

Rongrong Union M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

17.

Dagal Apal M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

18.

Ronga-Agal M.E.

6,000

7,000

...

...

19.

Aruak giri M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

20.

Raksamgiri M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

21.

Masangpani M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

22.

Bolsong M.E.

6,000

...

...

500

23.

Mindikgiri M.E.

6,000

...

...

...

24.

Mahendraganj M.E.

6,000

...

...

500

25.

Okkapara M.E

6,000

...

8,000

...

26.

Gonchudre M.E.

3,000

3,000

8,000

...

27.

Amongpara M. E.

5,000

5,000

2,000

...

28.

Gopinathkilla M.E

6,000

...

...

...

29.

Kapasipara M. E

3,000

...

...

...

30.

Mahadeo

6,000

...

...

...

31.

Maheskhola M. E (Nikora)

6,000

...

...

...

32.

Karukol M. E

6,000

...

...

...

33.

Rongrikimgiri M. E.

5,000

7,000

8,000

...

34.

Mother's Union M.E.

7,000

...

...

...

35.

Mibonpara M.E.

2,000

6,000

3,000

500

36.

Chinma Jambal M. E.

6,000

...

...

...

37.

H. D. Memorial School

5,000

...

...

...

38.

Darenggri M. E. 

...

4,000

...

500

39

Depa Union M. E.

...

6,000

...

500

40.

Ragapara M. E.

...

6,000

8,000

...

41.

Gopinath Bordoloi M. E.

...

10,000

...

...

42.

Dadenggiri M. E.

...

...

3,000

...

43.

Chibbongga M.E

...

...

8,000

...

44.

Sibbari. M. E.

...

...

8,000

...

45.

Gasuapara M. E.

10,000

...

8,000

500

46.

Betasing M.E.

...

...

...

500

47.

Katuli M.E.

...

...

...

500

48.

Nivedita Girl's M.E

...

...

...

500

49

Ampati M. E

...

...

2,000

500

50

Godalgiri M.E.

...

...

...

500

51

Nokatgiri M. E

...

...

...

500

52.

Pedaldoba M. E.

...

...

...

500

53.

Monabari M.E

4,000

...

...

500

54.

Amindagiri M. E.

...

...

...

500

55.

Kabasanagar M. E

2,000

...

...

...

HIGH SCHOOLS

           

1.

Adokgiri H. S.

...

...

10,000

1,000

2.

United Rongjeng H. S

...

...

...

1,000

3.

United Kharkutta H.S.

...

...

10,000

1,000

4.

Dilma Apal H. S

6,000

...

...

1,000

5.

Resu Belpare H.S

8,000

7,000

10,000

1,000

6.

Bajengdoba H.S.

...

7,000

...

1,000

7.

Garobadha H.S.

...

3,000

...

1,000

8.

Dalu H. S

...

5,000

...

1,000

9.

Dalu Bengali H. S

6,000

...

...

1,300

10.

Don Boisco H. s. Tura

...

...

...

1,000

11.

St. Xavier's H. S

...

...

...

1,000

12.

 

Christian Girl's HS.

 

8,000

...

 

...

 

1,000

5,000

13.

Tura Town H. S

...

...

...

1,000

14.

Baghmara H.S.

...

...

...

1,000

15.

Boldamgiri H.S.

6,000

7,000

...

1,000

16.

 

Ampati H.S.

 

4,000

7,000

10,000

1,000

5,000

5,000

2,500

17.

Manikganj H.S.

6,000

...

...

1,000

18.

Tikrikilla H.S

....

7,000

...

1,000

19.

J. N. Phulbari H. S.

10,000

...

...

1,000

20.

Selsella H. S.

5,000

...

...

1,000

21.

Rangsakona H.S

6,000

6,000

...

1,000

5,000

22

Mellim H. S

... ... ... 1,000

23

Sulguri H. S

...

...

10.000

1.000

24. Mahendraganj H.S

...

...

...

1,000
25. Tura Hindi H. S. ... ... ... 1,000
26. Akhonggri H. S. 6,000 8,000 ... 1,000
27. Silkigiri H.S ... 7,000 10,000 ...
28. Omed Memorial H.S Rajasimla 5,000 5,000 7,000 ...
5,000
29. Rajapara H. S 5,000 6,000 ...

...

30. Katuli H. S .... 4,000 ....

....

31. Mangsang H. S 5,000 4,000 ...

...

32. Babelapara H.S 6,000 4,000 ...

...

12,000 ... ...

...

33. Ronjeng H. S 4,000 8,000 ...

...

34. Rongara H. S 6,000 ... ...

...

35. Chokpot H. S 5,000 ... ...

...

36. Shyamnagar H. S. 4,000 ... ...

...

37. Damas H. S 5,000

...

...

...

38. Resu-Belpara Girl's H. s. 5,000 ...

...

...

39. Hawakhana H. S. 10,000 ...

...

...

Mr. Speaker :-  Let us pass in to the next item. Now I call upon Shri. G. Laloo.

Shri G. Laloo :- Mr. Speaker Sir I would like to participate in the general discussion of the Budget as presented to the House by the Finance Minister. I will discuss only a few problems concerning the people living in the villages outside the border areas. I am happy to note that the village within the eastern portion of the Pynursla Development Block adjoining Jaintia Hills comprising the water shed of the Umngot river has found a  place in the specially backward area. I would like to take a little time to discuss the economic problem faced by the people living in those areas for the information of the Government and this august House. the people living in this area are the grower of betel leaves from time immemorial and the market of their produces was in the district of Sylhet. After the partition there has been no regular market for their produces and since that time they cannot maintain their living with the income of their produces. Therefore, whatever saving they have made, has been spent for maintenance of their livelihood. Now they have been reduced to object poverty and since 1973 these people have tried to switch over to jhum cultivation i.e. after the emergency of Bangladesh. But there is no virgin land for the jhum cultivation. We know that jhum cultivation is not to be encouraged, but the people have no other means of livelihood. Last year they could not sell even a single bundle of betel leaves to Bangladesh, as such to keep themselves alive they have to take jackfruits, leaf of sweet potato, leaf of yam and some other eatable jungle roots as they could not have enough food crops from their cultivation and they do not have any purchasing power to buy rice and other essential commodities. Mr. Speaker Sir, such is the economic condition of these people and I am afraid these people may face starvation in the near future, until and unless Government come to their rescue immediately. In this regard, I would urge upon the Government to give them free seeds, namely yarn tapioca, sweet potato, millets, beans, etc., as requested by them from the Government. I have been pleading this with Government and this august House on previous occasions and today also, through you, Sir, I urge upon the Government to help these people to switch over to pipul or wild pepper cultivation in place of betel leaves. The reason for pleading for pipul or wild pepper cultivation is for quick return and at the same time it is an unperishable cash crop and it can also fetch a very high price in the market within the country. There are some progressive growers in the area who have experimented pipul or wild pepper cultivation and in two or three years' time they have got good return. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am happy to know that in the speech of the Finance Minister agriculture and its allied sectors have been accorded the highest priority. This is a correct and right approach towards achievement of self sufficiency in food production and in removing the economic backwardness of the our State.

        Mr. Speaker Sir, I would like to bring to the notice of the Government and this august House that in the area which I have referred to, there is not a single dispensary nor a private medical practitioner and the people of the area have to go to Pynursla Dispensary for medicines, and they have to walk a distance for not less than 8 hours. I would, therefore, suggest that two dispensaries one at Mawlyngot and another at Mawkynrew be started to serve as many as 40 villagers within this area. I would  appeal to the Government once again to implement the various programmes meant for the most backward and specially backward areas immediately. I am also happy to note that Government has taken steps to bifurcate the Meghalaya State Road Transport Corporation, and while wishing the success of the Government in finalising the bifurcation of the Corporation, I would state that the importance and urgency of bifurcation need not be over emphasised. I say this because I believe that with the bifurcation of the Corporation, the Government will be in a position to solve the great hardship that is being experienced by the traveling public in the Shillong - Dawki - Tamabil Road and other routes also, and as far as I and my people are concerned, this is one of the burning needs of the hour. With these few words, Sir, I resume my seat.

Mr. Speaker:-  Mr. Humphrey Hadem. You will have 23 minutes.

Shri H. Hadem :-  Can I speak a bit later ?

Mr. Speaker :- Now Mr. Lapang. You will have 23 minutes.

Shri D. D. Lapang :-  Mr. Speaker Sir, I rise to associate myself in the general discussion of the budget brought forward by our Hon'ble Finance Minister. A the first instance, I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to the Finance Minister for giving this august House an opportunity to have a discussion and to focus observations on it. Before I proceed further, may I know time, Sir ?

Mr. Speaker :-  23 minutes.

Shri D. D. Lapang :-  Sir without spending my time on giving congratulations and compliments to the Government for tits  performances I would like to straight away make certain observation. First of all I would like to dwell on the subject of education. In regard to education in the speech of the Finance Minister, it has been mentioned that there is a provision for taking over and for starting of new Government high schools and also for taking over of M.E. Schools. Mr. Speaker Sir, this is very surprising because the private institutions like the M.E. and High Schools are being run very nicely so long as the Government has not taken them over. The moment the Government has taken over the standard of all these schools and the interest of the people have gone down and it is quite natural that even the resells of examinations in these schools have become very poor. So, I request the Government to examine this matter properly as there is something wrong somewhere. So far my knowledge goes the criteria for taking over these  private institutions by the Government are that the schools should be very good schools having sufficient fund possessing buildings and hostels with good enrolment and having land of their own. So, some good schools will be acceptable to be taken over by the Government. Mr. Speaker Sir when the school is good in the standard, it clearly shows that the public are taking keen interest to develop and maintain the standard of the schools. But no sooner than the Government takes over the school that the standard goes down. So, I would suggest to the Government that instead of taking over the good schools it should start taking over the schools from the scratch, I mean those are schools which have not got sufficient fund and the required enrolment but which the people have taken the initiative of building such schools. The Government can frame rules in such a manner that the guardians and the parents are very much involved in the schools so that they will  take interest to develop the schools. Thus by having such provision, the standard of teaching in the schools will be much better than that in the the private schools. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I would suggest one area which falls in my own constituency, and that is Byrnihat. Sir, as you know, Byrnihat is an industrial estate and many a time we have expressed our grave concern that the influx of the employees from Meghalaya and outside Meghalaya will swallow up the illiterate, backward and  neglected people of Byrnihat area. We have suggested to the then Education Minister who happened to be the Chief Minister when he visited the area as invited by  the Byrnihat Leaders, Union to establish a medium English Schools and any other types of Schools in Byrnihat so that people of that area will be educated and will not become the victims or prey to all changes that are taking place.

        Now, I am coming to basic education. Basic education has totally forgotten its basic doctrine and principle which we have introduced in our State on the lines introduced by Mahatma Gandhi. The starting of which has been a very good start but as time passed, the standard of basic education has gone down and even the foundation and fundamental principles have been forgotten. Now, in our basic schools, we do no have any more weaving, any more spinning, any more arts and crafts and any more gardening.. It is being followed on the same principle and syllabus of general education. There is hue and cry in basic education that they would like to change to general education. There is something here also Government  should look into it properly so that this department should not be neglected at all. Government do not pay attention to this department. Till  today, the teachers of basic schools are still temporary. There are many teachers who have retired, but without any benefit from the Government. They have been in service for 20 or 25 or 30 years, but still they are treated as temporary hands of the Government. This also should be looked into and proper consideration should be given.

        Mr. Speaker Sir, Government is shouting here and outside that agriculture is a very important subject which has been taken on a first priority basis. I would suggest that under half a million jobs programme of the Government, there should be a provision to appoint a teacher from agriculture side in the Government aided M. E. Schools and High schools. The Government should pay the salary of the teacher as is done in the case of a Hindi teacher or make a provision in the form of grants-in-aid to these schools. I am sure that if the teacher on agriculture is appointed in the institution, the students will no forget their soil. They will know and have interest in agriculture. This is one of the points which I want to impress upon the Government.

        Now, Sir I would like to say a word on scholarship which has been abandoned by the Central Government. The students were grumbling about it and they have also met the Chief Minister for this. I would like to suggest that our Chief Minister should have a talk with the Central Government so that the students will not be deprived of the benefit of getting scholarships as was done before.

        I would like to say something about the Labour Department. The job seekers in 1974 were 7027. This is not a small number and it is not easy to provide jobs to all job seekers. We have got the half-a-million jobs programme and some other facilities provided by the Government. But in my opinion the working of the scheme is not very satisfactory. They have not planned properly and they have no concentrated diligently to see that this scheme works properly. I have other suggestion in mind. The Government Press is always overloaded with Government works and it also take outside work. Why not Government create two shifts in this Government Press - morning shift and evening shift. By doing that, we will have two sets of worker and a new type of employment will be created by that system. Government will also earn some revenue by increasing more work. I would also suggest to Government to open motor workshop of its own. Many Government vehicles are sent to private workshops for repairs and Government has incurred a lot of money by sending to private workshops. If Government has got its own workshop, it will not repair its own vehicles only, but many private cars will also come. By doing that, another type of employment will be created for our young people whose names have been registered in the Employment Exchanges numbering 7027 in 1974 alone.

        Mr. Speaker Sir, I would also suggest to Government to establish one commercial  and Industrial Institute. At present Government has no such institute. If Government really want that the industries coming up in our State will benefit our people, there should be such institution. In this institution, Government can introduce subjects like printing, motor mechanic, binding, fruit preservation, stenography and typewriting. It is not a small job and it is not a joke that such big institution can be set up in a fortnight. But there are ways and means that Government can implement the schemes. For instance, if printing is taken up Government can take up only the theoretical part of the work in that institute. Regarding practical work, Government can request some private printing presses like the Don Bosco Technical School and students who are being given stipends will go to such press. If this is done, it will create avenues for employment for those students and they will learn all the commercial and industrial trades.

        Now Sir, in Upper Shillong, we have the Gram Sevak Training School. The schools give training to the Gram Sevaks who will be posted in the Blocks. If Government provide funds for sending the farmer to this school, then after the training they will become qualified farmer sand go back to the soil. These farmer will be able to follow up how to use fertilizer and the mechanised method of cultivation. If the Government give training only to the Gram Sevak, then the farmers will not receive training because one Gram Sevak has to cover a very vast area and it is not possible for him to impart the training to them.

        Mr. Speaker Sir, I want to have a little say on Cooperative societies. The Cooperative Societies have done great job by extending financial assistance to the poor farmers in the interior and it is really a good service rendered by this department. But I would also suggest that Government should extend financial help to small businessman and small industrial establishment as these will offer employment opportunities to the people of the State as a whole. I would also say something about the Chit Fund. There are too many agencies of this Chit Fund and instead of helping the people, they are cheating the people.

Mr. Speaker :-  How do you charge them for cheating unless you have some proofs ?

Shri D. D. Lapang :-  Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are some proofs and some persons have been arrested also . In fact, some offices of these agencies have been closed down. There are some arrests in Gauhati and one.

Mr. Speaker :-  What happens at Gauhati is outside our State.

Shri D. D. Lapang :-  Mr. Speaker Sir, the person arrested  are from outside our State but the agency is within our State. It may not be to the benefit of the House but what I want to say Mr. Speaker, Sir, is that the Government should look into the matter properly so that this agency does not exploit the public but should really be of some help to those who are depositing money in this agency. There is one adaptation order, the Adaptation of the Meghalaya Laws and Orders passed by this Assembly in 1971. It has come to my knowledge the under the Assam Money-lenders Act, 1934,  the Government of Meghalaya will check the money lenders in this State under this Act. But to my knowledge, till today, they have not opened any office, they have not framed any rules and regulations and they have not placed  any officer to be entrusted with this job. So the private money lenders in  Shillong are exploiting the people like anything. I would like to request Government that this should be stopped and no further exploitation will be imposed upon our poor, illiterate and ignorant people.

        Now, C D, Department. As I have had occasions of  speaking in my last speech Mr. Speaker Sir, we are grateful to the Government for creating the Development Blocks in every corner of the State which are the agents for focusing the attention of the Government and also for implementing the schemes as provided and entrusted to these Blocks. I would like to say here that so far as our Ri Bhoi is concerned now Ri Bhoi is being demarcated under the Ri Bhoi Administrative Unit; that means, the whole Ri Bhoi area, including a portion of the Mairang Development Block. I would like to suggest to the Government that, for the sake of administrative convenience, the Mairang Development  Block in Bhoi Area be amalgamated with the Bhoi Development Block. This will be quite in the fitness of things an also, on top of that, there war a proposal in the Central Government as proposed by the then Government that another Blocks should be opened in the Bhoi Area. We will be very much gratified if the Government will open another Block in that area for the betterment of the people so that Government can deliver the goods to the people of that region. I will also suggest in this speech that there is very little to say about the administrative set up of the Government  but the policy of decentralisation of administration is welcomed by every one of us and the Government has really done its best to see that the administration is brought closer to the people. But I have a little suggestion here Mr. Speaker Sir. There are some difficulties on the part of the Government for choosing as to where will be the headquarter of the administrative unit or civil subdivision  or the district. The Government should have an indirect indication so that the people will not have any grumble or a tug of war or  a difference of opinion if the Government can make an indirect indication. By that, mean, place one Circle. Area Officer and in the headquarter there will be facilities like medical care, post office, education, water supply, model house or village. The people will be accustomed and they will come to the office of the Area of the Circle officer so that when the civil division headquarters come up there will be no grumble and the Government will avoid any headache if they can take care of it well in time. A few words more, Mr. Speaker Sir.

        I now come to the P. H. E. Department. Mr. Speaker Sir the PHE Department has failed to perform its duties satisfactorily. I would like to request Government to overhaul this Department. There is a great slackness in this department. Last time, during the previous Session, the people of Mawlai came in a procession and placed their grievances that they did not have water in spite of the fact that the Government has spent about Rs.22 lakhs or so and that also the people of Mawlai are very reasonable by giving 7 or 8 days' notice before they demonstrated. Sir if this department is conscious enough about the problem, it would have gone and met the leaders of the local Durbar and would have solved the problem. But why allow the people to incur loss by abstaining from their daily duties ? So Sir, this is also one of the failures of this Department and there are many other instances. At Umsning, the Government had assured the people that a scheme, in a major way, would be taken up by the Department. But till today no sign of improvement, no sign of  survey and no sign of hope can be had by those people. It is really very very slow; and in my Constituency, there are too many items that have been promised. They have surveyed but there is no implementation. So I would request Government through you Sir, to see that these things should not be treated lightly because the people are suffering and the Government is bearing the whole responsibility. On jhum cultivation, if there is still time for me.

Mr. Speaker :-  No only one minute more.

Shri D. D. Lapang :- Then I will leave out jhum cultivation and come to communication. Without saying much, on the P.W.D., I would like to request the P.W.D. Minister, through you Mr. Speaker Sir, to please take up one road from Kyrdemkulai to Patharkhmah. The road has been constructed but there are about 13 miles and if that portion be completed we will have a parallel road from Shillong to Gauhati because we can go from here to Kyrdemkulai and then to Patharkhmah running down to Gauhati and if there is any trouble on the G. S. road or if we cannot bifurcate the Corporation then we can have a parallel Corporation. I hope it will be very essential for the Government to note that it should implement it immediately.

        On Medical Department I do not have much to say but why not pay attention also to the local Kabirajs as they are doing wonderful work in the interior. If some encouragements or incentives are given to them in  the form of grants they will be very helpful to the people. (Bell rang).

Mr. Speaker :-  If Government give grants, I think there will be too many.

Shri D. D. Lapang :- Well, Sir, proper screening should be done. With these few words, Sir, I resume my seat.

Mr. Speaker  :- Mr. Syiemiong.

*Shri Winstone Syiemiong :- Mr. Speaker, Sir, at the outset I would like to know from the Finance Minister as to what is the price index computed in this State. So far I understand from his statement at page 1 the price index related only to the all India figure. But we would like to know what is the price index in this particular State because in the second para of his statement there is also another line, the last but one sentence in which he has stated that the prices indices have shown a downward trend. This a very happy sign no doubt if the Finance Minister meant that this is an all India basis. But if he would even in the least referred to this State. I would like to very much differ from him because the condition in this State here is anything but good. We do not know however who are the people who actually computed the price indices here but if we take into account the price indices computed in every kitchen of every family particularly when it concerns rice when it sell s at Rs.2, 3 or even 4. I think the correct picture has not been shown by the statement of the Finance Minister. Here in this State also there may be downward trend of price level in respect of certain commodities but unless and until the price of rice comes down, it is meaningless. After all, India as a whole and this State in particular are dependent on agriculture; our economy is based on agricultural and that also mainly on rice. If the price of rice cannot be brought down, the condition of our people will not only remain same as in the last year, it may be worsened. In this context, Sir, I would like to mention one of his remarks where he says in para 33 that-"I regret very much that I am presenting a deficit budget". I believe the Hon'ble Finance Minister knows very well what are the implications of presenting a deficit budget in view of the prevalent inflation all over the country. Whereas many other States in this particular year have come out with a surplus budget our State has come with the biggest deficit to the tune of Rs.97.99 lakhs. I would like to ask the Finance Minister as to why h could not reduce this deficit. He has however stated in another paragraph that some economy cuts have been affected by the Government and as a result of which the expenditure has become less. But I would like to suggest to him to take up some other measures because in my calculation I find that there are other measures which  the Government could take which could have enabled the Government to reduce the deficit. Last year, if I remember aright, I has mentioned about the misuse of Government of vehicles. Last years he did no reply, but many of the hon. Member may recall that he assured that he would give replies to individual Member through letters in time. But one full year has elapsed till date and we have not received any letter from the Finance Minister. I do not mind that he has not given us any letter but we would have been happy if at least he could have taken some action in this regard. But till today no action has been taken rather the situation has become worse. We all know very very well that our State is very poor State; we do not have much resources of our own. But I do not know why the Government has purchased such a large number of Government vehicles. I have personally come to know that we have more than 500 Government vehicles. We know every Government requires this. There are public leaders who require vehicles for 24 hours, we have got nothing to say. Nor are we opposed to the requirement of vehicles for the Medical Department or Police Department or for that matter the Deputy Commissioners because these people requires vehicles for 24 hours and they must be provided with vehicles. But Mr. Speaker, Sir, why others Departments of the Government require so many vehicles and that also not for official purpose ? There would have been some justification if these vehicles were used during office hours i.e. 10. O' clock to 4.30 P.M. But most of the vehicles are bring used beyond office hours. Last years, many hon. Members complained that they had seen the MLG cars going for picnic, cremation ground, cemetery, wedding party etc. It may be argued that the petrol expenditure is being borne by the officer themselves for private use of vehicles. But I do not think our officers are so rich and if so, I am coming to that point later, I have another point for the time being i.e. why these vehicles should be misused only by the class I officers only, why not the same privilege be given to the class III or class IV staff also and if possible why not we the public leaders also have one car for our use ..... (loud laughter) Sir I have calculated that assuming 5 litres of petrol at the rate Rs.3.25 paise per litre at the present rate, consumed by per vehicles for 50 vehicles we need Rs.8,100 per year. For lubricants and other essential things if we take Rs.280 per year the total expenditure comes to more than Rs.22. lakhs and including expenditure on maintenance and purchase of spare parts etc., taking at Rs.2.000 and Rs.500 respectively per year there will be an expenditure of another 10 lakhs per year. Why not, Sir, we take recourse to economy on this ? Let alone the pay of drivers and other expenditure ? I hope this Government will at least pay heed to our observation.

        Now, there is another point which I would like to suggest to the Government, Sir. We know that there  are 23 Blocks Development Officers in our State and under every Block there are 10 circles. For each circle, we have got one  Gram Sevak and we are paying Rs.150 per month for each Gram Sevak. But Sir, all Members would agree with me that these people are not there because they have got no service benefits and future prospect and so naturally, the do not work. Supposing, because they do not work, this Government do away with this kind of job, then we would get in a year more than four lakhs of rupees which we could better utilise in  some other fields. What is the use of maintaining this class of officers who do not work ? However, we cannot blame them for that as there is no reason for keeping  them in service. It is neither beneficial to them not to the State as a whole. Mr. Speaker, Sir, coming now to the muharirs that were appointed everywhere in the State. I can tell the P.W.D. Minister thorough you, Sir, that in one particular P.W.D. Division of Mawsynram, so  far my knowledge goes, there are  hundreds of muharirs and Government pay them when they have nothing to do. Why cannot this Government do some thing if is wants to economise and reduce the deficit ? In fact we should tighten our belt and do the best for the State.

        Coming to stationery and other things, I can tell you, Mr. Speaker Sir, that not less than 1,000 copies of these stationeries are being sent by this Government only as reminders because the any, we are forgetful some times deliberately and sometimes not deliberately. If this Government would only take keen interest in running the administration. I think this expenditure can be minimised to some extent.

        Mr. Speaker Sir, I come to another point now. My point is on agriculture. I appreciate very much that the Government has attached priority to the agricultural sector wherein several kinds of schemes have been formulated for the development of agriculture. But the most important things has been given the least importance. As for agriculture the most important thing is to have a market. There is a slight mention in  the Governor's Address that there would be some Cooperative Marketing Societies. This is not enough Sir. What we want is the market that would take our products outside the State, because in our State itself, there is no market except in Shillong to a considerable extent. If the  Government thinks that only this market of Shillong is sufficient, then we could not understand what will be the fate of our farmers. Last year, I remember when there was an export of potatoes to Bangladesh, as far as my information goes, one quintal of potato there was sold at the rate  of Rs.190. While contractors, those people who supply potatoes supply to Bangladesh, brought only at the rate of Rs.40. to Rs.50. from our poor farmers in Shillong. Can I ask this Government who said that they are trying to help the farmers where this priority has been given in this budget speech, whether they will really help our farmers ? We know that out  farmers know how to  use fertilizers, manure and how to plough the land and unless this Government comes forward and help them to market the agricultural produces of the upland and the border areas, than this good tiding here of this budget speech will be a mere pious wish.

        I come to another point, and that is transport. The people are very much keen to have new routes opened by our Transport Department, because as it is at present one of the most difficult problem faced by the rural people as it is transport bottleneck. But Sir, I do not know whether this Government realises that the running of this Transport Department is one of the  worst ever. Buses were given to them hardly two years back, but if we look at their condition Mr. Speaker, Sir, you will know the reason why It seems that those buses carry the goods in a very haphazard manner overloading beyond the capacity. But who gains by that neither the Government gain nor the people gain. It is the conductors who gain the lion's share. I wonder why more checkers were not appointed. At one time, I remember to have seen a bus coming from Cherra. There were 60 or 70 persons sitting in the hood of this bus not to say of those standing inside the bus itself. Whether the revenue from these buses comes to the Government, Sir? If the bus goes out of order who will maintain or who is responsible. Then Sir, the kilometerage of running our buses are also very bad. They say that in Assam it is run at 4.5 kilometer per litre of oil. In the hills of Assam it used to run at 3.8 kms while in Meghalaya it is only 2.5 kms. Assam has got Hills like the Miker and North Cachar Hills and inspite of that it is being run 4.5 Kilometers but here in Meghalaya only 2.5 kilometers. There is no garage, departmental garage for those buses, and they are being garaged everywhere and in the station itself. These buses are being repaired. I have been a victim for more then two times. There cars never start moving at a right time. At one time, it started at 8 a.m. instead of 7.30 a.m. and at another time, it simply stopped at Mawphlang and we have to get another transport facility. If this is the condition of our State Transport, I would suggest that these buses be given to private parties and Government will realise certain amount of rent.

        Coming  to the another point, Sir, one of the most important factors in running the administration, I believe, is to have satisfied Government servant. I am very much pleased that his Government has accepted, as I said earlier in my speech on the Governor's Address, the Pay Commission Report of the Government of Assam, from the Grade III and Grade IV employees. May I ask this Government why are what are the reasons that till today the Government has not accepted the Pay Commissions Report for Grade I and Grade II employees of the State. I do not know and I do not think that all the officers are rich. So unless we give them some benefits, at least we cannot satisfy them. Do you expect that a half-fed employee could be a patriot? It is an empty boast. In fact, we are to look after those people whom we have to retain. Can we not look after those people ? Why didn't we take all the rules and regulations relating to their service conditions from the Assam Government, why can't we do something here in our State for them ? Sir, we want to make this of ours a patch of beauty and grace whereas we cannot satisfy those Government servants who are the ones to implement the schemes. Why can't we give them more facilities......(Bell rang)

        Sir, please give me two minutes more. If only we can extend to them better amenities it will give them incentive to work and serve the Government. I know there are some of them who are still there in the same posts. How then can we expect something good from them ? There are certain LDCs working in some District Offices for 14 years without any benefit. Even there are certain officers who are remaining in the same posts for more than 10 years. How can you expect anything good from them ? Sir if this Government is going to make this State of ours that pride of North Eastern India, I would suggest that these advises also be taken into consideration so that each and every one in the State are happy and can really endeavour to make our State the best administrated and most prosperous in the whole of India. Otherwise Sir, as it is at present, this year 1975-76 is not at all going to prosper like that of 1974-75. But it will now be worsened because here we are not financing more money rather we are financing less money in the budget and you will find certain figures given here for the year are something less than the figures given last year. According to the Finance Minister, we cannot get anything from the Central Government and Finance Commission cannot give us the tentative outlay of 83 crores of rupees during the Fifth Plan. I wonder why because in one particular District of the erstwhile State of Assam i.e. Mizo Hills District which is now a Union territory, I have seen that the total outlay in the Fifth Plan is round about Rs.50 crores. To be precise it is Rs.49.55 cores. So, Sir if that District can  get so much of money why we here in Meghalaya would get only Rs. 84 crores for two Districts.

Mr. Speaker :- You are comparing with the erstwhile condition of Assam.

Shri. Winstone Syiemiong :- Yes Sir..... (Bell rang) .... Sir, unless you give me some more time I think I will have to sit down.

Shri. Francis K. Mawlot :- Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will not take part. So you can give my time to him.

Mr. Speaker :- So I can leave out your name now. Mr. Syiemiong you can take another 10 minutes.

Shri. Winstone Syiemiong :- No Sir, I will not require so much time. Then another point is that why cannot government do something to get the allocation increased since it going to do it and we are all willing and ready to have this allocation for the Fifth Five Year Plan period increased. Otherwise Sir, I am quite sure that with all this picture of the present budget no tangible results will be achieved by our State. Sir, i you look at the details especially the way that this budget is prepared against Grants No.70 and 71 concerning Village and Small Scale Industries, you will find the amounts of Rs.49 lakhs and Rs.26 lakhs for the two heads which amounts are quite a large ones. But actually the major portion of this amount goes only to payment of salaries and wages. Sir, if it means only this much and there is nothing at all for our village and small scale industries, I wonder whether our Government has prepared the budget in a correct manner or not.

(The Speaker left the Chamber and the Deputy Speaker took the Chair).

        I also wonder very much because what we want here is not achievement in files or booklets, but what we want is how much a layman in the street would be benefited by this budget. The tax proposal made here also will only affect the poor section of the people. I find that this Government has imposed taxes only on the  lower section of the people. Why cannot Government do something to impose taxes on the rich people also. Sir, there are a good number of rich people in this town. We should impose taxes on them otherwise I am afraid we are taking away from the poor and helping the rich. This taxation proposal will hit only the poor whereas the benefit will go to the rich as is the practice now. Because I know of a certain big businessman who gets all the benefits from these things. He gets the benefit holding the permit of sugar and the same man is holding the permit of salt, he is holding the permit of rice and again of mustard oil, C.I. sheets, rods and what not. So, Sir, I don't see that this budget will help the poor section of the people but it helps the rich section of the people. With these few words I think, for the time being, I resume my seat.

Shri Y. Fuller Lyngdoh :- Mr. Deputy Speaker,  Sir, while participating in the discussion the Budget speech, I would like to dwell only on two points. We from this side are really very pleased that the Government has created some more Public Works Department Divisions within the State. But I regret to say, Sir, that when I learnt that offices of all these Public Works Department Divisions will be located here in Shillong. I am really very surprised why all these Public Works Department Divisions should be located here in Shillong. For example, Sir, the Shillong West Division, which actually should be named as Mairang Division, which comprises of Mairang Subdivision, a part of Markasa Subdivision and part of Mawsynram Division and also according to the area which this Division covers, Mairang will be the central place where the people from all sides and from all corners of this Division can reach. Sir, if the headquarter is at Mairang, it will serve the people better than if it is here in Shillong, and taking into consideration from the point of progress and  development, if all the offices are located here in Shillong, I wonder how that will help to develop the interior areas. In my consultation with the C.E. that is the Chief Engineer, I was told that the headquarters is located here temporarily for a certain period of time because there are no quarters at Mairang and there is no office building, but I wonder if at Nongstoin, a division can be run  in a rented house, and staff and officers can stay in rented houses why not at Mairang, when comparing the rates of houses rent at Mairang and at Nongstoin, the house rent at Mairang is far cheaper that at Nongstoin today. We are not rich people we are poor people we are poor people who are living in a poor State, in a poor country - cannot officers and staff be housed in a thatched houses? So also I learnt that the Shillong North Division will be located here in Shillong. Why not this Division be located in Nongpoh or Nayabungalow and why not  this Shillong North Division be called Nongpoh or Umsning Division ? I would therefore urge upon the Government  through you Sir, that if we really want to bring about development and progress in our State and if we really want to improve  the economic condition of the State, it would be better that these Divisions be removed from Shillong and be opened at places where they can serve the people better.

        Another thing, Sir, the hon. Member from Nongspung has just stated regarding the incentives giving to the Government servants - to the officers as well as the office assistants. We learnt that in some offices, as it is in the case of the Government servants who are working in the office of the Mairang P.W.D. Subdivision they are not getting  their Hill Allowance. It is really surprising, that after an enquiry, the S.D.O. who is in-charge of that subdivision is getting the Hills allowance while his subordinates and office assistants are not at all getting this Hill Allowance. It is really strange to note that not only that, Sir, but while the police personnel's, the medical officers and nurses who are working there at Mairang, are enjoying this Hill Allowance, why not the subordinate engineers or the P.W.D. staff who are working in the same place are also allowed to enjoy the same facilities ? I would, therefore, urge through you, Sir, upon the Government that Government will kindly see to it that these Government servants should have the same facilities as enjoyed by their fellow workers in other departments.

        Next Sir, I come to communication. Actually I have been silent for the last two or three years regarding the improvement of the Mawngap-Mairang Road, because when the Chief Minister and the Finance Minster visited Mairang, they were telling us that it will be done - it will be done after a few months. But up till now, Sir, I saw no progress as all. Last year an amount of more than Rs.11. lakhs has to be refunded because the officer did take the trouble to call for tenders so that this  road can be improved. This road is a State High-way in which State buses are plying every day from Shillong to Nongstoin and I hope in the near future it will go direct to Tura. But this portion, though the other portion  of the road from Markasa upto Nongstoin, metallic and black topping have been done, this portion of the road from Mairang to Mawngap is so bad. This will not only affect the people but even the buses. How can State buses run on this road  ? It is dusty; people who are living on the road side especially those villages which are on the road  side according to my information are suffering are suffering due to the dust which not only enters their houses but even the utensils and their food are being mixed with dust. That is  why the people are getting tuberculosis and other kinds of diseases. In this connection also, I would urge upon the Government that it will please see to it, that metalling and black topping on this road be done immediately so that it will help the buses which are plying on this road and also the people to get rid of certain discuss which attack them.

        Another point, Sir, that I want to touch is on Soil Conservation. We have seen that a very huge amount has been allotted for this Department but we do not see much progress of the work. According to my observations Sir, I do not see the Soil Conservation personnel would  go to the villages to educate the people, to tell the people that the Government is helping them if they really want to give up the traditional jhumming cultivation. In the Bhoi area, the people are still practising jhumming cultivation. Nobody from the Government side approached these people except a few Gram Sevaks and B.D.O who are really very hard working, who  really take the trouble of educating the people and telling them to give up this jhumming cultivation and offer them the opportunity of getting help from the Soil Conservation Department so that the people could grow better by using improved and scientific methods of cultivation and adopt soil conservation and terracing which is permanent and not temporary like jhumming. Here also, I would urge upon the Government to see that the people or the personnel of the Soil Conservation Department  go from place to place and tell the people and educate them so that we can see better progress in this field also. With these few words, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I resume my seat.

Mr. Deputy Speaker :- Mr. Samsul Haque.

Shri Samsul Haque :- Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am highly glad to have this opportunity of taking part in the general discussion of the Budget. Sir, at the outset, I would like to say that I have gone through the budget prepared by the Finance Department and which had been presented by the Hon'ble Finance Minister to this House on the  12th Instant, and I found that considering all the difficulties and necessities of the State, the Finance Department had  taken up some plans and estimates which, I hope, Sir, will help bring about all round development and prosperity to our State. So, Sir. in this respect, I would like to extend my hearty congratulation to the Hon'ble Finance Minister. Sir as I am going to discuss the budget prepared by the Finance Department for the coming financial year, I would like to touch some important points. First of all, I would like to say something about the Agriculture Department, Sir. Sir, Government is aware of the fact that agriculture is the back bone of our State and almost all the people of the rural areas irrespective of the fact whether they are tribals or non tribals are agriculturist. But the financial position of these agriculturists is not so satisfactory. On the other hand, Sir, last year due to constant heavy rainfall and devastating floods, the condition of the cultivators of rural area had come down unexpectedly. To tell the truth, their economic position now is very pathetic. Sir, during the flood all the road communication connecting the District Headquarters remained closed for which supply of food grains could not reach the Fair Price Shops as a result of which the people of the rural areas, specially of the food affected areas, suffered very much. On the other hand the price of rice and paddy rose so high unexpectedly that the people had to face the economic distress also. At the time, Sir, the cultivators, who had stored up some paddy seeds for ensuing sowing season, have been oppressed by economic distress and they has consumed all the paddy seeds. So now, Sir, no cultivators will be able to bring out even  5 kgs of paddy seeds seeds from his house. On the other day, just before my coming to Shillong I visited some areas which were badly affected by flood namely, Narang Silkeng, Jareng, Turuchong and some other villages under my constituency and some parts of Kalichorong. Here, all the  people  came to me with a prayers to have some Ahu paddy seeds from the Agriculture Department. Sir, the sowing season is coming near but our cultivators are having no paddy seeds in their stock. So Sir, I proposes to the Government to supply a reasonable quantity of Ahu paddy seeds for the ensuing sowing periods so that the cultivators may have the facilities to the procure the Ahu paddy seeds at the time they needs at the subsidised rate.

          Sir, another point I would like to touch is that the economic condition of the people of the rural areas is most pathetic. Now I would like to focus one real fact in this august House. For the information of the Government, Sir, on that day one unfortunate villager came to me and stated that he, having been oppressed by the economic distress and some other financial hardships, had to come down to a mahajen to borrow some money and the merciless mahajan demanded a high rate of interests but lastly he was compelled to take a loan of Rs.500 from him at the interest of 10 per cent per month. Sir, the person concerned has five or six bighas of landed property and with the help of 500 rupees he purchased somehow a  pair of bullocks for cultivation purpose. But unfortunately he could not receive the expected yield of crops in the harvesting period and  moreover he has got four children. On the one hand he has got no food in his house to eat an on the other hand merciless Mahajan is pressing him hard to repay the amount. Sir, now the interest on the same amount  stands, so far as I know, at 600 rupees and plus the principal amount of 500 rupees the total amount stands now at Rs.1,100. Sir, this is the condition of the people of the rural areas.  So Sir, to save our cultivators from the clutches of the merciless Mahajans, I would like to extend my humble suggestion to the Government, through you Sir to open Rural Credit Bank in different parts of our State so that the Government may give some facilities though this bank to our people..

        Next I would like to say something about education. Sir, to expand improved education is one of the most important schemes of our Government. Sir, first of all I would like to say something about primary education. Sir, it is a fact that many of our primary schools are being run with a single teacher. Sir, the Government is aware of the fact that in every primary schools there are five classes namely Class A, Class B, Class I, Class II and Class III . Sir it is very surprising as to how is it possible on the part of one teacher to manage all the five classes at a time ? Sir, we have heard here in this House that we want to  improve the quality of education. Can we expect to have good quality students from the school which consist of five classes and run by a single teacher ? Sir, the primary schools are the most important educational institutes where our children are being taught how to read and write. This primary education is the first stage of education for the children in their early age. Sir, so long as this forth coming is not driven out, Government can make no satisfactory progress in this time. I would like to suggest to Government to abolish this provision of maintaining is single teachers in an L. P. School. Sir I know as the School................

Mr. Deputy Speaker  :- You can take up the mater with the District Council.

Shri Shamsul Haque :- Yes, Sir, I am going to touch that point also. I know all the primary schools are run by the District Councils. Yet, I must say here that I know all the primary Schools of our State are indirectly being financed by our State Government. So, Sir, the State Government has every right to suggest to the  District Council as to how the Schools can be run smoothly. Once again I like to offer my humble suggestion to the Government, through you, to abolish this type of defective old system in the field of education. Regarding M.E. Schools and High Schools, I shall speak a little more, Sir. Many M.E. and High Schools in our State are run with the help of public contribution and Government grant-in-aid and schools which have fulfilled the terms and  condition laid down by the Department such as, having a reserve fund, schools building, landed property with playgrounds and requisite qualified staff with science apparatus; these schools should be provincialised with the hope to make better progress of education in the State.

        Now, Sir, I would like to touch on the block development agency. Block development wing is the most important agency of the Government through which important schemes and programmes are being channelised to the people in the rural areas and so many important schemes have been implemented through these block development agencies and our people in the rural areas are getting much benefit from these schemes. Sir, recently I came to know that minor irrigation scheme (Bell rang) has been dropped from the block development agencies, and it has come under the direct supervision of Agriculture Department. I fear, the people of the rural areas will not get so much benefit out of the scheme if it is implemented by the people Agriculture Department; because people of the rural areas will get no more scope to approach the Agriculture Officer who is functioning from the district headquarters. Sir, I would like to state here that  minor irrigation is the most important factor for cultivation in the rural areas. The people know (Bell rang) the B.D.O as he very frequently visits the rural areas. If minor irrigation scheme is entrusted to the block development agency, then I think the people will get direct  help from the scheme. As time does not permit me to speak further, so with these few words, I resume my seat.

Mr. Deputy Speaker :- Mr. H. Hadem. You  will get 22 minutes.

Shri H. Hadem. :-  22 minutes I think I will not take so much a time. First of all, I would like to congratulate the Finance Minister for giving us a detailed Budget Speech. But It seems there are some portions on which we need some clarification for the benefit of all of us. Sir, while taking part in the discussion, I would like first of all to turn to para 9, namely, agriculture. It has been stated there in the first line of page 6 - "agriculture and its allied sectors have been accorded the highest priority" and it must also be so. But it is not very clear whether the Government has taken some active measure in helping the cultivators of our State. Something has been pointed out in the last paragraph of that page, that the targeted out turn in 1975-76 about 1.35 lakhs tonnes of food grains and this is expected to be achieved at  through the various programmes, including an increase in area, under high yielding varieties of crops, application of fertilizers and manures and other improved practices. But, Sir, in the reply of the Agriculture Minister it was found that the Government had not yet taken any proper or definite steps for helping ties cultivators in coping with the present high cost of fertilizer and manures. We were told in the House that the Government is giving subsidy only for transport purposes. But actually it was learnt that the cost, as it is at present, of manures and fertilizers is rather becoming double that of the last year and if this be the position, Sir, I am afraid, the expected out turn or yield of food grains by the end of this year will become half of the expected or targeted quantity, and, as such, I would propose or suggest to the Government, through you Sir, that some sort of scheme in the form of direct subsidy be given to the cultivators so that they can meet the cost of bone-meals and fertilizers which will be at least, to the extent of 50 per cent of the cost price. This will be helpful to the poor cultivators. In view of the present cost of living, the cost of labour also in going up higher day by day.

        Secondly, Sir, I would like also to point out that at page 12 something was stated about education. The second sentence reads as follows :- "The programme also includes schemes for taking over of M.E. Schools and starting of Government High Schools." Sir, in this I am one with the ambition of the Government. If  it is financially possible, the Majority of the M.E. Schools in the State must be provincialised but, in this regard, Sir, I may point out some unpleasant incidents that the students up-to-date have not received some of the text books. I am told that the text books were changed only recently at the last part of December of last year by the Text Book Committee. Most of these books are out of print and that printing is being done at present and uptil now those books are out of stock and hence not available for use by the students. These are the English and Arithmetic text books and I was told that it might have been done intentionally so that it will at least being down the standard of the students of this State. I do not know how far this is true.........

Prof. P. G. Marbaniang (Minister of State for Education) :- Not to bring down the standard of the students.

Shri. H. Hadem :-  Let the hon'ble Minister reply later on. But, Sir, the position, as it is at present, proves it. The schools were opened from the 2nd week of February and up-to-date no text books of English and Arithmetic are available. In our school days our Arithmetic Book was the one called Jadav's but not another one has been selected and that one also is our of stock. So, Sir, it indirectly amounts to what I have already remarked. Then again, Sir, the curriculum or syllabus of the schools for the last 2 years has not been revised and I hope, Sir, that it is high time for the Department to do the reason as early as possible. If I am correct, the Assam Government, through their Education Department, have already done that portion. I do not know whether it is not high time for our State also to do likewise.

        Another thing, Sir, which is very strange is regarding some amounts of grants earmarked for the enlargement of school libraries. It is very strange to learn that during the last year, instead of these schools exercising their own preference of choosing the books to be kept in the libraries, some high standard books were brought in bundles or packages and handed over to the schools or the  D. I of Schools. So, Sir, there is something in this which requires enquiry and proper examination.

        Another point, Sir, during my last tour to the southern side of the Khasi Hills I came to learn that schools in the southern part of the District like Balat, etc. are under the jurisdiction of the D. I. of Schools from Nongstoin. These people while coming to meet the authorities will  have to go through and via Shillong and then go back to Nongstoin. I think this also needs reconsideration to re-allot the jurisdiction of these schools under the appropriate D.I. of Schools. Further, in the last part of that para it is stated : "The starting of a pre- examination training Centre for coaching of candidates for I.A.S. and Central Services and the restarting of the U.P.S.C. Examination centre for All India and Central Services at Shillong are events of significance and these would help considerably in equipping our youth, to compete in these examinations". Sir, as far as I learn, the scholarship from the students specially selected for this pre examination training centre amounts only to Rs.100 per month per students. It is learnt that other Governments, like the Nagaland Government, have granted  scholarship to the extent of Rs.200. p.m. per student. I request the Government to treat our student in the same manner as done by others as we also are not wealthier than those students of Nagaland.  So I hope the Government will reconsider the matter an treat our students  in the same level as done by other states.

        It was also found, Sir, that because of the dearth of writing papers for children, the price of papers  and books has been doubled this year. Therefore, I would like to suggest that the Supply Department to take some necessary steps, if possible, by bringing this article also under their control system as being done, in other essential commodities. This will go a long way in helping our future generations who are now studying in schools an colleges.

        My hon. friend has charged the Public Health Engineering Department of not being able to do their work expeditiously that, in some cases, they could not complete the work early. I have also one example to cite and that is regarding Shangpung Water Supply which was a very very long pending case since the time of the Government of Assam. During last year, a temporary measure had been experimented by the Department to supply water to the villagers during one religious function but just after that function though the pipes are still there and all the materials remained there but without water. I would therefore, request the Government to see that this be expedited which, as I have stated earlier, is a committed scheme not only by this Government but also by the  Assam Government as well. It is high time, Sir, as our  State now is being old enough -two years as an Autonomous State and three years as full fledged State to complete this scheme.

        Regarding transport, Sir, I have nothing to say as most of the hon. Members have complained against the services rendered by this particular department. But only one point I would like to add and that is regarding the District Transport office of Jaintia Hills at Jowai t. It is very sad to find that up till now this office is  running without sufficient staff. The most essential officers like the Motor Vehicles Inspectors and others have not yet been posted there by the Transport Department. The Jaintia Hills District Transport Office which is located on the mercy of another District Transport Office which is located here in Shillong. So I hope, the Government will take necessary steps to provide necessary staff to man this District Office.

        I would also like to point out here some defects, if I may say so with the agencies of the Municipality here in Shillong. During the British time, Sir, it was found that carrying of night soil and other bad smelling things was being done at midnight say between 11 P.M. to 3 A.M. of the next day. But it appears that now while people are still busy, these sweepers are also very busy in carrying those bad smelling thing (laughter).

        Therefore, I would request the Government to look into this. Even within the precincts of this Assembly, you will find the same thing; only then the hon. Members are coming that the sweepers are also cleaning the bathrooms and others. This, I have made a mention in the interest of health of the Public in general.

        Another thing I would like to bring before this House is regarding Public function. It has been very often complained that, in some cases, public functions sponsored by the Government were held on Sundays. I hope, Sir, the Government will see that in future, such things, be avoided. I have taken 20 minutes time and I do not like to take  away the time of other hon. Members. So, last but not the least, I would like to point out one very important thing. During the presentation of the Budget by the Minister in-charge, I have a chance to question as to why the Budget was not made available to the members. We were told that after the Budget Speech has been delivered, the Budget will be presented. I brought this point because, last year the Hon'ble Speaker had also  pointed out one very controversial constitutional point in the House. That has a reference to the district budget supplied to the District Councils. During that time, the Hon'ble Speaker has made it clear to the House that the District Budget should be only in a draft form in times to come. But it was learnt, Sir, that even during this year, it was still supplied in the same form as usual, printed and bound in copies as usual. They are at the same colour and everything is same as supplied to this House. So my question at this time is why the hon. Members of this House have no privilege of having the budget estimates prior to the time of delivery of this budget speech whereas in the District Councils, they are having a better privilege than this House itself ? I think Sir, it is high time now that we should have utilised the opinion of our Advocate General at least to clarify this very important point before the House. This, Sir, I am referring to para 13 of the Sixth Schedule to the Constitution. Here it is clearly stated that estimated receipts and expenditures pertaining to our Autonomous District which were to be credited to or to be made from the consolidated funds of the State shall first be places before the District council for discussion and then after such discussions be shown separately in the annual financial statement of the State to be laid down before the legislature of the State under Article 202. It appears, Sir, that the District Councils are having the privilege better than this House. As such, Sir, I would like to submit that it is a question of privilege of this House. So I would like to clarification on this particular point. It appears that this is a breach of privilege, if not a contempt of this House and that this matter if possible, be clarified. We as Members of this House would like to have a legal interpretation of this particular point by the Advocate General personally in this very Session of the Assembly. With these few words, Sir, before you order me to take my seat, I will voluntarily take my seat.

Mr. Deputy Speaker:-  Now I will call upon Shri Dlosing Lyngdoh. He is absent. So Mr. P. N. Choudhury. You will get 22 minutes.

Shri P. N. Choudhury :-  Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, at the outset, I would like to express my satisfaction and appreciation of the Finance Minister, for bringing in no proposal for new major taxation. Sir, our State is a very poor State wherein majority of the the people are below the poverty line. There is hardly any scope for imposing any taxation on them. It will be like proverbial 'last straw on the camels back' if any further taxation is imposed on them. So our Finance Minister has done a very good thing. Sir, without disputing the Government's good intention, as embodied in the Finance Minister's Budget Speech, I am constrained to say that the actual implementation of the schemes and programmes of the Government is not very encouraging so far rather it is very unsatisfactory. For instance, I will start with food production. Sir, food production in our State has not been very encouraging and this fact has been admitted by Finance Minister also  in his Budget Speech, Sir, we are absolutely depending upon the supply of every items of essential commodities from outside. While participating in this debate on the Governor's Address, I suggested that Government should create a buffer stock. But the Supply Minister pointed some difficulties in that respect. Sir, law is for the benefit of the people. Law should not stand in the way of betterment of the people, for improvement of their lot.. If their is any legal difficulty, for creating buffer stock that should be removed and there should be a buffer stock of certain selected items. The other day the  hon. Member from Phulbari stated on the floor of this august House that there are 92 death cases from starvation in one village in Garo Hills. Sir, has there been a buffer stock that situation might not have occurred. The situation might have been successfully meted out from that buffer stock. Apart from this there are floods, dislocation in communication and other natural calamities. If these happen once again, this year, I am afraid, the fate of our people will worse, where from we shall get our requirement for food then? That is why I once again, suggest through you Sir, that the Government should take up with the Central Government for creating a buffer stock of essential food stuff, Sir our State is in deficit for our food requirement. We should be given a special permission to establish a buffer stock within the State.

        Sir, I will refer now to education. Sir, it is heartening that during the last 3 years, there has been 50 per cent increase in the number of schools categories.  Large Number of Schools have come up within the  State during these years but the quality has not improved, rather it is deteriorating. Moreover, in the rural areas, enrolment also has not increased in many schools. Sir, primary schools teacher are not getting their salaries regularly. In this year also as many as 82 teacher of the primary schools outside the Shillong Municipality are not receiving their salaries for the last 12 months. Sir, without salary, how can we express them to carry on their duties ? How can the Government expect better services from them ? Naturally, the quality of education has been gradually deteriorating. We cannot expect better performance and better teachings with the dissatisfied teachers. My suggestion to the Government through you, Sir, that those poor teacher should get better pay scale and their emoluments should be paid monthly. The Government should see that there is no delay in the sanction of the their pay in time. Sir, this is also the case with the teachers in the Aided Schools who do not get their monthly salaries regularly. Some of them do not get pay even after three or four months. This is the State of affairs prevailing in the sphere of education. Sir, the  schools teacher of all categories should also be given adequate scale of pay, medical benefit and other benefits which are being enjoyed by the Government servant. Sir, if we intend to improve the standard of our education we should pay more attention to the primary schools teachers because it is they who build  up the very foundation of education of our children. If the foundation  is weak, education is bound to suffer. Sir, there are half constructed school buildings in our State. There are many schools which are suffering for want of accommodation and there is no provision for adequate equipments in many of the schools. Even there are schools which have no play ground and this, Sir, the Education Department should look into this matter and provide all these facilities for the betterment of our educational system. Sir, this year there was, as usual, a competitive examination for  the lower primary school student for general scholarship. Sir, it is strange that two different sets of questions were set for the same subject one set of question in one language differ from other. Sir, how can it be possible for the question setters to set up two different sets of questions for one subject ? It is really strange that such a thing has happened in this year's competitive examination for the primary schools scholarship. Sir, the decrease in the enrolment also is mainly due to the fact that remote villagers could not avail of the opportunity of expansion of schools due to lack of communication. The outlying villages, the remote villages should be connected with the feeder road in order to be able those children to enjoy the benefit and avail of the  opportunity provided to them by the increased  number of educational institutions in their localities.

        Then  Sir, Government has banned gambling in archery games. But Sir, gambling in archery is rampant in Shillong town itself and one can buy archery tickets popularly known as ' teer' from every nook and corner of the town. Sir, this is another example of  Governments unsatisfactory implementation. Sir, Government has enacted a law on this, but that law is not implemented in its letter and spirit. So I wonder what is the use of enacting such law when it is not implemented properly. There is another side of it. It is due to this gambling on teer and other gambling the anti social elements have risen their ugly heads in our city. There are many instances of  anti social activities mainly as a result of these gambling's.  The Government should take strongest measures to stop these sorts of gambling.

        Then  Sir, in medical sphere we find that although we are assured on more than one occasion that there will be provision of ambulances for the hospitals, up till now ambulances have not been provided though these are essential especially for the Civil Hospital and Ganesh Das Hospital. Sir, occasionally patients from Mawlai or from any distant places area required to be sent to the Hospital at the dead of night, when it is difficult to arrange conveyance at the dead of night, as no taxi is available at that time. They are subjected to great suffering. Many delivery cases from the outlying areas  have been put to great inconvenience because, they do not get quick transports. I would like to suggest through you, Sir, that Government should provide ambulances in all hospitals especially Civil and Ganesh Das Hospitals without any further delay.

        Sir, adulteration of food is now on the increase. Whatever food we take most of these items are adulterated. There is adulteration in milk, spices, medicines and what not Sir ? Everything that we eat is adulterated and proper action has not so far been taken to detect this. It is strange, Sir, that we have no Public Analyst in our State. This one who was here, has gone to Gauhati now. So we must have a Public Analyst here in our State. This point I had once stressed last year. I regret that nothing so far has been done in this respect. Sir, I like to cite one example about the State Library Auditorium where the rent has been enhanced exorbitantly. Sir, this is the only Auditorium where public functions and the amateur clubs hold their cultural functions. But due to the enhanced rate which is very exorbitant, those who are working to  promote cultural activities of the State will be very much  handicapped. Due to high rent they cannot hold their cultural function, in the State Library auditorium which is the only hall for such purposes. Therefore, Sir, in order to encouraged cultural activities and providing opportunity for holding public functions in the State Library the Government should consider reductions of rent. The present rate should be reduced to a reasonable level at least at par with rent charged by the Government of Assam.

        Then Sir, administration of jails also needs prompt attention from the Government for improvement. On this floor of this august House attention of the Government was drawn by me to the congestion in jails. But nothing so far has been done. Sir, juvenile prisoners are kept in the same place with other convicts.  This is detrimental to well being of the youth as well as to the society. These prisoners should be separated from other categories of prisoners. There should be provision for better food an clothings for the prisoners. We should change our own outlook towards these prisoners. Reformatory measures should be taken. There should be a human approach to this problem.

        Sir, I am very happy to find that at long last two roads have been secluded in the P.W.D.. Budget for one of the most backward areas of the town, that is, Lumparing. Sir, I would like to make one suggestion in regard to item No.26 page 116 of the P.W.D. Budget :- the construction of the a road to Lumparing New Colony M.E. School and Buddha Mandir via Forest Road. This road as proposed will be extended up to the Lumparing M.E. School, but that will not solve communication problem of that locality fully. My. suggestion is that it should be further extended and connected somewhere near the Survey of India road near Crinoline falls. If this is done it will serve the purpose and remove the long felt grievances of the people of that locality. While on this, I would like to make another suggestion for construction of the diversion road from the Point near Laban Bazar connecting the Streamlet Road or widening. Howell Road. I make this suggestion because this will save much national wealth. Those who have gone to that side by car will bear me out that for going to Laban, one has to consume a lot of Petrol and time because he has to cover along distance to come back, the road being one way traffic. My suggestion is that either Howell Road should be widened to covert it to both way traffic or a diversion and linking Streamlet Road, and that will save a lot of time and petrol. Sir, the Finance Minister has outlined various schemes that Government  propose to take up in the next year. These are small items no doubt bearing the need of the State, but at the same time these are commendable. Sir, our State is poor, under-developed and there is hardly any infrastructure unemployment problem is on the increase. What we need is a far bolder measure to meet the situation. Sir, those who are responsible for implementing the schemes lack a sense of urgency. Nothing is done in time. The other day I had to say that delay is the order of the day and I repeat that this inordinate delay in the implementation part of our programme hampers progress. Everywhere we find that unnecessary delay is made - whether it is distribution of seeds or grant of loan and subsidy and as a result what happens ? The real purpose is vitiated. Why these could not be done in time is inexcusable.  When Government decide to give some loan or seeds or fertilizer, why it cannot live this in time Sir ? It is beyond my understanding. The development of agriculture and the establishment of industries should have been done in time so that people concerned will be benefited. (Bell rang).

        Sir the socio-economic problems of the State are too many and to meet the challenge of the time, what is necessary is an efficient administration. I am constrained to say that it is actually deteriorating. The administration has failed to meet the aspirations of the people for whom they are meant to serve. What we need is that the officials should committed to the well being of the people, unless we have got committed officials, we cannot implement all these welfare and development programmes. There is a crying need for administrative reforms. (Bell rang). One minute Sir, I have almost come to the end. The Government should see that the new industries which are viable in our State are set up early. The Government should approach the centre and the N.E.C. to come in a big way to help the State because we are to go along way to catch up with the other States, we are  to make up for the backlog. So Sir, we need rapid development of the State and that is why, the Centre and the N.E.C. should be approached to come in a big way to help this infant State - this under development State so that we can also be equal partners of the country.

Mr. Deputy Speaker :-  Now Mr. Samarendra Sangma.

Shri Samarendra Sangma :-  Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I rise to participate in the discussion of the Finance Minister's Budget Speech for the year 1975-76. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on the year 1975-76 there is a deficit of Rs.97.99 lakhs and I think, as it has been rightly expected or expressed by the Finance Minister with the permission from the Central Government to raise the open market borrowing to the level of 3.36 crores and by some reduction on the unproductive schemes from the plan schemes and the mobilisation of local resources will help in a great way, to minimise the deficit.

        Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, of course it is my opinion from a layman's point of view that the Budget should be judged from the point of view of actual implementation of all schemes and the amount incurred therein. Anyway, Sir, I think that the Budget for the year 1975-76 reflects the very anxiety of the Government to prove their sincere efforts that they are going to developed the lot of the people all over the State. We should not forget that we have to start from the very scratch, we have very limited resources in our State and in the initial stage, a State like ours which is backward should avail of the Central Government recurring financial assistance and I believe after 15 to 20 years while these will be spectacular improvement in industry and agriculture, all the expectations will come true.

(At this stage the Deputy Speaker left the Chamber and Shri W. Syiemiong, Chairman took the Chair)

        This Government has taken the right direction from the beginning and  in the agricultural side also, all these schemes now being taken up by Government will definitely make our State - if not to export foodstuff to other State -  but at least self sufficiency, would be achieved by our State. This is my belief. And then, Sir, although I would not like to length my speech but I am constrained to say that all the  aspirations or expectations as expressed in this Budget Speech will be a gospel truth for us and it will actually give our backward State a sound footing for economic development in  future and thereby ultimately will bring about social and economic upliftment. And then, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to touch some other Departments and I will be very much condensed or short, only to suggest what I mean.

        In regard to Soil Conservation Mr. Chairman, Sir, I believe that the quantum of physical achievement of this Department should be appreciated. In the last year's programme, I have seen many places where terracing were done for purpose of conserving soil in our State. Not only that, in the terraced lands I found that good paddy crops also were grown, and I think, in such a way gradually we will be able to solve our food problem in this respect. But one thing, Sir, that I would like to mention here is, that the people in Khasi Hills and Jaintia Hills are advanced in terrace cultivation and to some extent they are accustomed and habituated to it whereas for our Garo people, this is new thing. From the very beginning there were some schemes here and there but this time, it has been taken up in a larger way and the people are also welcoming it. In this respect, what I want to stress is that our people are not well accustomed to it. There should be direction for such terracing cultivation. This should be made in consultation with the people so that maximum cooperation from the people's side and from the village side may be forthcoming. In the jhumming, as it is being done in the old method and as there are some aboriginal or old customs associated with it i.e. the rituals or something like that.  All these things should also be counted. The people are very much illiterate and  ignorant and the greatest difficulty is that financially they are very poor. I think Mr. Chairman, Sir, that in some terracings, even the Agriculture Department's trained personnel with the reputed amount of skill and finances and with all improved implements, even they failed to produces crop in the terraced lands and so we cannot expect much from the ignorant villagers, that at once they will make this programme a success. Anyway, Sir, with the Soil Conservation Scheme. I link up the re-grouping of villages and I think in future this re-grouping of villages and the soil conservation scheme will bring in our State revolutionary economic change and I thereby as a corollary the social change also should come in our society.  In terracing cultivation Sir, I particularly want to say that in my area also, Laskar Areas No II - 19 the whole population are cent percent dependent on jhum cultivation and in some parts of the jhumming cultivation also becomes impossible now because there is no production at all. So, I request the Government to take up schemes in that area. In all these three districts in the current year there will be 8 schemes for Garo Hills, - 3 for Jaintia  Hills and another 3 for Khasi Hills and these schemes should be exhibited in such a manner so that al the population gets some share and get the benefit and such terracing campaigns should also be arranged in the border areas also. I particularly like to draw the attention of the Government to this, as suggested.

        And then, Sir, next I touch upon Agricultural. In regard to agriculture, I only want to suggest that in Meghalaya we have got 3 district and in each district, we have permanent cultivable wet agricultural lands. I mean these lands which are not affected by the annual flood damages. I think the Government should look into these and that in these permanent wet cultivable lands, a package programme - Grow More Food Campaign -be taken up on package system and I think that will help us to solve to some extent to achieve our goal  on food front. And, then, Sir, I would like to draw the attention of the Government to a bund, i.e. irrigation bund that has been constructed some years back as Boldamgiri at a cost of about Rs.1,40,000.00 or something like that and this is a huge amount of  course there is no doubt. I was touching this matter last time also but from the Government side, nothing has been done. I want to say here that though an amount of Rs.1,30,000 has been incurred for the bund, it is absolutely of no use to the cultivators because on portion of extension has been broken and all water flows away from the broken portion of that bund. So I particularly like to draw the attention of our Agriculture Minister to this and demand his personal attention in this matter. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I do not know whether it is proper to mention here or to request the Government to see to the feasibility of starting a Cow Dung Gas Plant in our State. I understand that the total cost will not be more than Rs.1,000 or Rs.1,500 and that dung or six or seven cows will  be sufficient to run Cow Dung Gas Plant and it will help in cooking the food of a family consisting of six or seven members and will offer light also and will help to produce better quality of manure. At the same time I would like to state here that it should be started one in each Block headquarters successfully and later on the schemes should be implemented on subsidised rates as it has been done in Punjab and other States of India. And then I want to touch on the animal husbandry and confine my deliberation only to the poultry side. Mr. Chairman, Sir, every year through the Blocks improved variety of hens are being distributed and actually by this scheme the rural people are getting the improved variety of  hens in their respective areas. When these improve varieties of hens are distributed to the villages, the Block officials should be very particular whether the hens will be used for the table or for the purpose of poultry farming. As the people are getting these hens of subsidised rates, some of them may take advantage out of it. If the people are allowed to buy these hens and if they use them for table purpose, the very purpose of scheme will be defeated and there are some poultry rearers in our area also who have poultry farms of 10 to 15 fowls or 50 to hundred fowls in number. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have my personal interest in the poultry farming and I rear 50 poultry hens. But what I find during all this time is that there is no feeling material. This feeding material is not locally available and if the feeling material is not readily available, I have found that laying of eggs is lessened. So I request the Government to see that at least at the  Block level, this poultry feeding should be supplied at subsidised rates.

        And then, Sir, I now come to sericulture and weaving side. I think the whole western part of Garo Hills is bring neglected by this department. I know the population structure of that western side of Garo Hills, Hajongs, Garos, Koches and Bengalis are there and actually they are weaving their cloth in a traditional way and I want to request the Government that one Weaving-cum-Production Centre be opened in this area, I mean in any convenient place preferably near the other areas.

        Sir, now with regard to medical, I want to say that there was a meeting in our Block area for starting a Sub Medical Centre at Nogorpara and its minutes were forwarded to the Government. So I request the Government to expedite the matter. Now with regard to rehabilitation, Sir, our tribal brothers, who are rehabilitated in the year 1964 or before are actually living in a most deplorable condition with no means to subsistence. So I suggest that the land given to them should be settled permanently by issuing patta which has not yet been done. They should have due share in the cooperative movement and some cottage industries should be there so that they can be benefited. With these few words, I resume my seat.

Mr. Chairman :-  Now I call upon Mr. Jormanick Syiem. You will have 22 minutes.

Shri Jormanick Syiem :-  Mr. Chairman Sir, in participating in the discussion of the Budget, in the first place I would congratulate our Finance Minister for his very concise, clear and properly worded speech, I am very happy to note in the first place that agriculture has been given a proper place in this years budget and that agriculture has been recognised to be the sheet anchor of  our programme. We are very happy about this effort which the Government is going to make. From both sides of the House, we have stressed about the necessity of improving agriculture. But I would like to suggest to Government, through you, Mr. Chairman Sir that the form of agriculture in our State is also out dated. Our cultivators are adopting the same method which their predecessors had been doing. We have seen oranges have tailed because of blight. So also potato,  tejpata and pan leaves are not finding any market. So Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to suggest here that it is time that Government should explore the possibility of introducing new crops in these areas. Now, if oranges have failed in the border areas, how are  we to utilise the groves which used to be orange groves. Surely some experts should examine the possibility of utilising such areas instead of leaving them as jungle. In so far potato is concerned, Mr. Chairman, Sir, we have had a very and experience this year because our potato cannot compete with the potato coming from Simla. In fact our cultivators are being supplied with potato seeds called kafi judti. These come from Simla and if the same area which supplies these seeds is competing with our cultivators where is the market for our potato. It is perhaps desirable that some of the seeds which may be planted at different seasons of the year earlier or after so that the competition can be evaded, otherwise I doubt very much if our potato cultivators can get the same benefit that they used to get before I would like to stress here, as I said before, that we are apt to follow the same old method. One British administrator, when he was posted to Assam, said when we come to Assam we always begin with "as it was in the beginning is now  and over shall be" (laughter) It seems that the cultivators are doing the same. We have got to change this attitude now and see if we can introduce some new modes of cultivation.

        Coming to irrigation Mr. Chairman, Sir, I see that they have tried to take up lift irrigation schemes. This will be possible only if we have flat lands or concentrated areas where you can have a number of cultivators clubbed together or group together and then give the benefit of this lift irrigation schemes. But realising the nature of the hill areas, the slopes, the valleys, the precipice and also that land tenure system of the Khasis, whether this scheme can be applied in every area. There are more progressive farmers who would like to extend cultivation by making small irrigation projects. I understand that practice of helping such people has not been stopped. Where can we find these big flat areas where so many cultivators can be grouped together, especially in the Khasi Hills when the lands belong to private individuals, nobody outside the family or clan can be given a place to cultivate in that irrigated area. I doubt the wisdom of the Government is abolishing the  small irrigation schemes which have been extended to cultivators in the past. I do not know whatever consideration Government may have given that they have abolished that system but I feel that unless irrigation schemes for individuals are given some encouragement either with subsidy or in some other forms, it will be difficult to get wet land cultivation in the Khasi Hills at  least to be benefited from the irrigation scheme as the Government propose to have now. I feel such farmers who have put in efforts in head water dam or irrigation canal should be encouraged by Government by giving some subsidy for the work that they have already done, not that they should be given in advance. But if some have really made a genuine effort to extend their cultivation, I think it is fit and proper that such persons should be helped by the Government either through the block or through the Agriculture Department.

        Coming to soil conservation, I do not agree with some of the members who think that this is not beneficial to the people. As was coming from Delhi yesterday flying over a part of Meghalaya, I could see that the State is becoming a desert unless something is done. Now soil conservation is very necessary in this district. If I am not mistaken, the first soil conservation scheme was started at Sumer where the Syiem of Mylliem had persuaded the people to allot the hills. Now we see that hill, which from our childhood had been barren, is covered with thick forest. Why not take up this Soil Conservation scheme when the people are now appreciating that this is necessary. Let it be clearly understood that if the Government regenerate these areas, it should be made clear to whom the trees belong. As far as I can remember, the Sumer area to which I referred just now, was given for a period of 20 or 30 years. According to the agreement, is under the Forest Department and at the end of 20 or 30 years, this forest will be made over to the Syiemship of Mylliem. I do not know whether that agreement is still being honoured. If it was for 20 years, that time has expired now, if it is for 30 years, then we have to wait for another 10 years. But after the expiry of this agreement this area should be reverted to the person or persons who gave the authority or who allowed the Soil Conservation Department's scheme at Sumer. I have seen in other areas again that efforts were made for terracing but whether trees are really planted there I do not know. So, the Soil Conservation Department should be clear in their mind if the people can be persuaded to give their plots for regeneration. The regeneration scheme should be carried out in a planned manner and with a clear understanding with the land owners. So, Sir, as I said before I think soil conservation is very very necessary for this State and I do not agree with the hon. Members who think that it is useless.

        Coming to communication, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I congratulate the Government for having made much progress in opening roads and as I went through this Road and Building Estimate just now, I find that so many more roads are being taken up. Only one thing I am afraid is that if new roads are taken up and if old road which have been started, are left out, whether it will be for the good of the people. Unless these old roads are completed they are going to be spoiled by erosion or by some to the natural events. So, my suggestion is that although new roads should be opened up, and old roads, which have already been started, should also be followed up so that the money spent will not be wasted. In this scheme which I have referred to just now, I have some questions to place before the Minister in charge of P.W.D. though you, Mr. Chairman, Sir, there is a road which was earmarked to be opened from Laitkor through Pomlakrai and through other villages right upto the 12th mile on the Shillong - Cherra Road. But while going though this estimate just now, I find that the road has been changed. If it has been so changed, I do not understand why we were not consulted and any change that would have to be made should have been made known to the representatives of the people. I will read the exact portion on what I mean. Of course this is the road.

(A voice : Page 120)

Shri Maham Singh :-  As a matter of courtesy he has consulted.

Shri Jormanick Syiem :-  I know. If there has been any new alignment other wise the people who have been expecting to get a road all of sudden will find that the road has been diverted elsewhere and so they will naturally put the question to us as to why this has happened.

Shri Stanley D.D. Nichols Roy :- Page 121, item 107.

Shri Jormanick Syiem :-  Yes. It was originally surveyed for going from Laitkor through Pamlakrai to the 12th mile on the Shillong - Cherra Road. But now it seems that it has been diverted to Laitlyngkot and then to Laitkroh. I do no know why such changes have taken place. On the other day I had requested.

Shri Maham Singh :-  Originally it was to go to?

(Voice : The 13th mile.)

Shri Jormanick Syiem :-  The other day I pointed out to the Minister in-charge regarding the bridge at Mylliem which is very narrow, damaged and dangerous. I had thought that it would be included in the estimate but it has not been included. I hope the Minister in-charge will at least take steps to provide a foot bridge if not widening the bridge otherwise it will pose a danger to the pedestrians.

        Coming to industries, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I am glad to see that the Government has taken up or allowed such schemes to be started like the Meghalaya Plywood and the Komorrah Limestone Mining Company which are functioning or going to function. Only one thing I would like to remind the Minister in-charge, Forests, through you, (Bell rang) Mr. Chairman, Sir.

Mr. Chairman :-  You have two minutes more.

Shri Jormanick Syiem :-  Unless sufficient materials are supplied to industries like the Meghalaya Plywood, it will be a great loss to the people running the Industry because they have got big staff and unless they can work every day much wastage will be caused to them and that would be a great loss.

        Coming to the supply of essential commodities, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to remind the Minister in-charge of Supply that at first our people did not like atta but once they have taken to atta, the atta is not being given as promised because rice is being supplied at the rate of 1/4th KG. per head in the rural areas. So we thought that if rice is not available to the extent necessary, atta would be given. But it is surprising to learn that atta also is not being supplied. May I know whether atta is also in short of supply as in the case of rice, if not why these people who have taken to atta should not be given more atta when they are not in a position to supply that quantity of rice through the Fair Price Shops. Mr. Chairman, Sir, now I would like to touch only one thing from the budget speech about the Land Revenue forms Commission. We are yet to see the report, but we are anxious to know as to whether the report of the Commission has touched those points in connection with soil conservation, re-afforestation, etc.

Mr. Chairman:-  It has already been laid on the Table of the House. You may go through it after this sitting.

Shri Jormanick Syiem :-  Thank you Mr. Chairman, Sir. With these few words I resume my seat.

Mr. Chairman :-  Now, Mr. Dlosing Lyngdoh. You will get 20 to 25 minutes.

Shri Dlosing Lyngdoh :- Thank you Mr. Chairman, Sir, but I would not take so much time. Sir, I sincerely appreciate the Budget Speech of the Hon'ble Finance Minister. With this Budget we have high  hope that proper execution of the schemes and programmes so far taken up would be carried out. Sir, I would like to say something on some Department particularly on Education. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to make some suggestions on Education. Firstly, our Government is always very kind to give grants to every Schools and college but it seems the Government has got no hand in utilisation of these grants. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I wish to suggest that Government should have a hand in the distribution of the Government grants to the educational institutions so that proper management and proper utilisation of the money may be done according to Scheme. Secondly, Mr. Chairman, Sir, I want to suggest that the Government should send Audit party to these institutions which have received Government grants so that on the basis of the Audit report new grants may be extended to these institutions. These are some institution which even do not allow the Audit party to go through their accounts even though they have received grants from the Government. So I do not know how this grant is utilised for the welfare of the schools and colleges. For example the Managing Committee of the the Union Christian College have not yet undertaken any audit of their accounts till today although the Government has given several grants to that particular institution. The teachers and the students have lost their confidence in the Managing Committee for their dictatorial attitude. Therefore I would request the Government to have a little hand there so that this institution may run properly. It was also informed that the head of the authorities of this college do not even allow the teachers and the students to join any Association. The teachers are punished if they want to join the Meghalaya Teacher's Association and the students are also not allowed to form any Association.

Shri Francis K. Mawlot :-  On whom the teachers and students lost confidence ?

Shri Dlosing Lyngdoh :-  As I have already mentioned they have lost confidence on the Managing committee of that College. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I have said that Managing Committee has taken a dictatorial attitude. So I would request the Government, through you, Sir, to have little intervention in these affairs.

        Mr. Chairman, Sir, I would like to say something about Meghalaya State Electricity Board, our new achievement. Sir, in this project we are very grateful to the Government for generating electricity by which we van supply electricity to our neighbouring States as well besides our own use. Mr. Chairman, Sir, to start taking up any new project, I am afraid, our cultivable lands of the State may be submerged. So, Sir, before we take up any new project, we should better have proper survey that cultivable lands, especially wet cultivable lands, should not be taken for this purpose. Otherwise, our people will not be able  to live and they  may not be able to fund a place for their future living. At present, Mr. Chairman, Sir, the authorities of this Board, especially in Kyrdemkulai circle within my Constituency, I was informed, are not willing to take or to give employment to the local youths within the area. Amongst the employees of the Board there in Kyrdemkulai, I am sorry I do not find even one percent of the local youths being employed so far even in the lower grades such as Grade III  and IV employees. I hope, Mr. Chairman, Sir, that our local youth are very affective for clerical works, very active for labour and very active also for constructing works. But Mr. Chairman, Sir, as far as my knowledge goes in this particular areas project, very few local youths are taken in. So, I would request the Government, through you, Sir, to give due consideration in the matter of employment of local youths whenever we take up any new project or any new scheme within our own State. Otherwise, the coming up of the new industries or projects or any new scheme in our own State would be of no  help to the local youths and the employment in the State will be on the increase form time to time. I am afraid it may pose another problem of the influx of population from outside the State. Our State is a very small State with a small population. If our people cannot get jobs and the works in our State are taken by the people from outside the State, in no time, Sir, we will be out-numbered. I would request the Government, through you Sir, to take a serious view of the problem. I now come to last point Sir, I would like to say a word or two about agriculture. Sir, with regard to Agriculture Engineering Wing is highly commendable. If these 5 new lift irrigation schemes are successful, two in the Ri Bhoi, two in the western side of the Khasi Hills and one in Jaintia Hills, three to four thousand acres of dry and barren lands will be reclaimed and be converted to wet paddy fields and a short period of time. Four years after the creation of our own State, our Government have made great achievements in this field. But Sir, besides the Engineering Wings the whole department, I would suggest should be better reconstituted at all levels, otherwise the real cultivators or tillers of the soil may not be able to get proper benefits from the Government. I would like to say a few words on P.H.E. and Industries Department along with M.I.D.C. For these three particular departments, I would suggest their reconstitution or reconstruction on a strong basis to be done by the Government at the earliest, otherwise the people will get no benefit out of the present set up of these three particular departments. With these few words Sir, I resume my seat.


ADJOURNMENT

Mr. Chairman  :- Since there is no more participant in this debate for today, the House stands adjourned till 9. a.m. tomorrow, the 18th March, 1975.

 
  R. T. RYMBAI,
Dated Shillong Secretary,
The 17th March 1975 Meghalaya Legislative Assembly,

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